
Yesterday I wrote, “Is the declining job market of academia good for the church?” in response to a posts written by Marc Cortez and Jim West (read the original post for links). I asked if it was a good thing that some people who hoped to be professors instead become pastors because they could not find a job in academia. On Twitter Myles Werntz responded saying, “Maybe it’s good, except that you’ll have lots of folks who view it as a consolation prize.” This seemed to be a common concern. On Facebook a friend wrote this:
“I don’t understand why people think that not making it in the academy always means a fall back into the pastorate…. Both are callings, and should be treated as such. …For students to treat ministry like that is kind of scary to me. Some people feel a call to both, fine- but don’t force something because of a situation. Unless you are Jonah, don’t do fall backs.”
If our pulpits are filled with people who wanted to be behind lecterns what does this do to the church?
I agree with those whose comments expressed concern. It downplays the pastorate. It makes the pastorate a “Plan B” for those who wanted to do something “bigger and better”. It could result in men and women pastoring people who know college/university/seminary talk. They may be able to explain the JEDP theory of the Pentateuch, but they cannot preach and teach the Pentateuch. They have a theory on the Synoptic Problem, but they don’t know how to connect the Gospel of Mark with the lives of parishioners.
That said, it could be that we are overlooking something important about some people. It could be that there are some who take the pastorate so seriously they don’t want to enter it. I’ve seen many contemporaries rush toward the pastorate and at times I’ve doubted that they’ve thought seriously about what this means. Do they think they will be the next famous preacher? Some might be that person, but many won’t.
Most people will pastor churches of about eighty members. They won’t earn big paychecks. They will be too busy to write those books they imagined writing. Their parishioners will not be nice people who love their pastor.
At times I am worried that they’ve underestimated the costs of this vocation. Those who seek academic positions are sometimes very aware of what it would mean to live life in a classroom compared to a sanctuary. They know why they don’t want to do it. Could it be that they are the best people for the job?
In John Chrysostom’s magnificent little work On the Priesthood he writes dialogue with Basil. Chrysostom does not want to pastor so Basil challenges him with these words:
“But what riddle can there be more obscure than this—Christ has commanded him who loves Him to tend His sheep, and yet you say that you decline to tend them because you love Him who gave this command?”
Chrysostom responds:
“My saying is no riddle, but very intelligible and simple, for if I were well qualified to administer this office, as Christ desired it, and then shunned it, my remark might be open to doubt, but since the infirmity of my spirit renders me useless for this ministry, why does my saying deserve to be called in question? For I fear lest if I took the flock in hand when it was in good condition and well nourished, and then wasted it through my unskilfulness, I should provoke against myself the God who so loved the flock as to give Himself up for their salvation and ransom.” (BOOK II.4)
Later Chrysostom begins to explain why he did not receive the call to the pastorate immediately, but rejected it at first:
“For had I accepted the office, I do not say all men, but those who take pleasure in speaking evil, might have suspected and said many things concerning myself who had been elected and concerning them, the electors: for instance, that they regarded wealth, and admired splendor of rank, or had been induced by flattery to promote me to this honor: indeed I cannot say whether some one might not have suspected that they were bribed by money. Moreover, they would have said, “Christ called fishermen, tentmakers, and publicans to this dignity, whereas these men reject those who support themselves by daily labor: but if there be any one who devotes himself to secular learning, and is brought up in idleness, him they receive and admire. For why, pray, have they passed by men who have undergone innumerable toils in the service of the Church, and suddenly dragged into this dignity one who has never experienced any labors of this kind, but has spent all his youth in the vain study of secular learning.”
These things and more they might have said had I accepted the office: but not so now. For every pretext for maligning is now cut away from them, and they can neither accuse me of flattery, nor the others of receiving bribes, unless some choose to act like mere madmen. For how could one who used flattery and expended money in order to obtain the dignity, have abandoned it to others when he might have obtained it? For this would be just as if a man who had bestowed much labor upon the ground in order that the corn field might be laden with abundant produce, and the presses overflow with wine, after innumerable toils and great expenditure of money were to surrender the fruits to others just when it was time to reap his corn and gather in his vintage. Do you see that although what was said might be far from the truth, nevertheless those who wished to calumniate the electors would then have had a pretext for alleging that the choice was made without fair judgment and consideration. But as it is I have prevented them from being open mouthed, or even uttering a single word on the subject. Such then and more would have been their remarks at the outset. But after undertaking the ministry I should not have been able day by day to defend myself against accusers, even if I had done everything faultlessly, to say nothing of the many mistakes which I must have made owing to my youth and inexperience. But now I have saved the electors from this kind of accusation also, whereas in the other case I should have involved them in innumerable reproaches. For what would not the world have said? “They have committed affairs of such vast interest and importance to thoughtless youths, they have defiled the flock of God, and Christian affairs have become a jest and a laughing-stock.” But now “all iniquity shall stop her mouth.” For although they may say these things on your account, you will speedily teach them by your acts that understanding is not to be estimated by age, and the grey head is not to be the test of an elder—that the young man ought not to be absolutely excluded from the ministry, but only the novice: and the difference between the two is great.” (BOOK II.8)
Chrysostom perceived that someone too quick to accept the offer to be a leader in the church might show themselves to have ulterior motives. In his presentation of himself he showed detractors that he could live life just fine without the prestige of an ecclesiastical office. He knew some would say that it was a shame that others who had given years to the day-to-day service of the church were overlooked in favor of one who had “has spent all his youth in the vain study of secular learning.” He knew he would be perceived as (to use our language) an academic in the pulpit.
Chrysostom is known today as one of the greatest preachers in the history of the church. He did not waste his good mind by entering the pastorate. But that is not the moral of this story. What I am saying is that we must be careful not to judge someone too quickly who flees the pastoral vocation in favor of other callings they find more apt. If God pushes them toward the work of a pastor you may be confident that they are taking the office not because they want power or fame, but they wrestled with the angel of God until exhausted they were changed.
Personally, I am one of those who would rather enter the classroom than the sanctuary. If I pastor someday it will be because I submitted to a strong, forceful calling–not because I wanted the glory of such a position. Now I don’t mean to sound too snarky, but I can’t guarantee the same for those who in their first year as an M.DIV student talk about how they are going to do this with “my church” and that with “my church”. Maybe churches should worry more about those folk? I don’t know.
Wow Brian, are you ever doing this issue justice. (BTW big fan of John Chrysostom).
Brain, I really appreciate these posts. Both have hit home, since they described my _exact_ situation. A little bit about me: I was accepted to a PhD, but due to the cost, the move, the general lack of long term viable employment and so on, I had to pass on my offer. I then was challenged by our Priest to consider the ministry, to consider whether I had a vocation on the basis of what it is I value – people, teaching, the sacramental life of the church; in a word, theology before it became regulated to an academic discipline.
Luckily I’m forced to undergo a long discernment process that I hope and pray will allow me to differentiate between simply going after “plan B” or finding, as in St. John Chrysostom’s case, that a vocation to the priesthood was the plan all along.
To me it seems that there is a certain allure to academia that isn’t quite offered to our Priests and Pastors. The academic minds the deep thoughts of politics, history and stimulating research, while the Priest/Pastor simply tends to potlucks, youth car-washes, etc. But this is reflective of the managerial ethos that has infected our churches. So it’s no wonder that many, including myself at times, regard the ministry as Plan B.
By way of a footnote, isn’t it the case that the church catholic’s most widely read theologians were not academics, or at least academics as we understand the term today? (Disclaimer: I am not promoting anti-intellectualism here!)
Also, I too live in Portland, so felt compelled to write.
Many thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Robb
Andrew
Thank you!
Robb
You are correct that the most read have not been the cloistered. Of course, one could argue that other than being in a monastery there wasn’t anything quite like a professorship for most of the church’s history. Nevertheless, I think many scholars today are in danger of doing their scholarship divorced from the concerns of the church and this is not always a positive thing. Sure, we need those who give their lives solely to academia because we have critics of the church that do the same. We need people who realize that task is never ending and that there are people in our churches who need us to serve them with our intellectual gifting as well.
I pray the best for you during this discernment process! I am sure you will be all the better for it.
Thanks again, Brian.
And yes, I agree – I still want academically trained theologians working in universities.
Great points and thoughts, Brian and Robbie! I believe this is the EXACT kind of discussion and anguished discernment that will result in the right people being in the right areas of service to the Church, whether in the pastorate or the classroom. I can see that God is using the struggle to refine and clarify His direction to you! Cool!
Monica Rey’s comment is insightful. What resonates with me in this thread, is what Brian said “It could be that there are some who take the pastorate so seriously they don’t want to enter it.”
If there are some (such as John Chrysostom for example) who take the pastorate so seriously they don’t want to enter it, they are honouring [James 3:1] and in line with its Spirit which says “Not many of you should become teachers (διδάσκαλος didaskalos G1320), my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.” Here, greater strictness is the worry.
But, what does the verse mean by teachers “didaskalos”?
Does it mean pastors, as shepherd of the flock will be judged more strictly, or does it mean ‘teachers’ more directly, such as theologians employed in academia, are the ones to be judged more strictly?
I tend to see ‘pastors’ as the ones who are to be judged more strictly since their influence on the ‘sheep’ is more direct. If this is true, one might easily see why a person might shun the ‘pulpit’ for the ‘lecturn’. However, If it is false, then shunning the pulpit for this reason is baseless. Indeed, a disservice is being done to the flock by denying the flock true teachers. We know what happens when that happens:
“The dogs have a mighty appetite;
they never have enough.
But they are shepherds who have no understanding;
they have all turned to their own way,
each to his own gain, one and all.” [Isa 56:10-11]
“For the shepherds are stupid
and do not inquire of the LORD;
therefore they have not prospered,
and all their flock is scattered.” [Jer 10:21] (also [Jer 23:1]
I have to disagree with you, Robbie. My husband is an Anglican priest, and served a number of years at a church that he planted here in Boston. We both went to Gordon Conwell, and our church saw a number of seminarians come through desiring to become priests, many of which I would never recommend (knowing their personal lives). Many of these seminarians lack the maturity to be in the pastorate, and that is why I am thankful that our denomination has a relatively lengthy discernment process, followed by a mandatory time period between ordination to the diaconate and then ordination to the priesthood. The same allure you see of academia, I would argue is just as prevalent toward the pastorate.
Hi class. My name is Jeremy and I was planning to get a PhD but became a pastor instead.
I would still like to get a PhD someday. Who knows what that will look like or if it will be feasible. But a few things I can say about the differences between the professions and the call.
First, the allure of being a professor is not so much a matter of status for me as it is that the workload is less. Being a pastor takes a great deal out of you. The hours are terrible, and the stresses are such that if someone isn’t ‘called’ I suspect they would flee this job quickly. Teaching also means doing one job well, while pastoring means doing about fifty jobs well. The appeal of simplicity is strong.
But second, I think (Brian) that you may have overinflated the language of ‘call.’ The process is less Pauline (Damascus Road) than we would like. You sort of slip into positions and find, looking back, that God has brought you somewhere you didn’t expect. We can only be faithful with what is in front of us at a given moment, not with the unknowns of our future “The word is a light for my path”–that is, for my next step. Obedience is more important than understanding.
Lastly, I personally never viewed the pastorate as second prize. I pursued an MDiv in seminary so that I could serve both the church and the academy. As I see it right now, I’m only fulfilling half of my call. But I’m fulfilling the half God has called me to fulfill at this time, and that’s what’s important. (Oh, and I got to write a book, which is good.)
Ken
I agree, it is these types of internal wrestling matches that empower the future professor, pastor, or professor-pastor to be sure of their calling.
Andrew
It is worth pondering whether there is a different degree of responsibility for those called by God to teach in an ecclesiastical setting and someone called to teach in academia.
Jeremy
The odd thing is in my post on the subject yesterday there was a comment that indicated I was framing it too much in “job” and not “calling” language and today I am framing it too much in “calling” language. Let me clarify that I am not saying one must have a Damascus Road experience. In other areas I have had similar “in retrospect” experiences where I could recognize the hand of God. I think your basic point is correct.
In my mind academics is the consolation prize…
Mark:
Are you propitiating the myth that academics are failed pastors? 😉
Pretty much! 🙂
Nice! I’m going to send an email to your friend Ben Witherington now…. 🙂
Jeremy,
I don’t want to discount the hours of a pastor- but the life of an academic, if you are a serious academic/professor means just as crazy hours and amounts of dedication (I say this as a former pastor’s wife of a church plant- I KNOW CRAZY). Being a ‘true’ academic means constantly pushing out publications (which means research, research, research), it means supervising students both as an advisor and as their professor, creating lesson plans, attending numerous meetings (related and unrelated- administrative, departmental, etc), and I’m sure tons of other things we are unaware of. Its not less arduous. Making a career, whether in the pastorate, academic, or any other field often times requires absolutely crazy requirements and constraints. Maybe I just say this living in a big urban center where people spend most of their lives at work/working. Its not “easy” and I find that rather insulting.
And on the “calling” language. I didnt get the sense that Brian was being too “Paul-esque” in his description. No one is assuming that a “call” means a Damascus Road experience. I’m not sure why people approached it that way….?
I totally forgot grading! Whose going to read all those 30 paged papers, midterms, and finals? Most careers (please distinguish this from just a “job”) require much more than a 9-5. Pastor’s aren’t the only ones doing this.